On the death of Philip III of Spain

[Nan Elizabeth Jorgensen]

What the heck!?? Taking a class at Berkeley on Spain and Portugal up to the 17th C. Where the h do these
"Surely II.V" and such come from? Even from the explanation of the differences between Spain and Portugal's numbers, I mean––where?

It was SPAIN'S Philip III for god/goddess's sake, folks. He died in 1621, an untimely 43 years old, which considering his long reigning father and grandfather Charles ( Carlos) V was a bit of a shock.
You're damn lucky you didn't have to keep track of the Alfonsos ( Afonsos)!!!!
Peace out ~~~~NJ

So the guy who got roasted was actually Philip II.5.

Surely II.V?

There's nothing special about base ten. YM "II/". HTH.
The '/' means 'half', should be smaller and represents a
broken stick. Broken sticks link to fascists one way and
Nazis another way: useful information in case anyone ever
wants to terminate a thread -- not my intention in this
case.
Simon.
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[Mark Shaw]

Post by Nan Elizabeth Jorgensen
What the heck!?? Taking a class at Berkeley on Spain and Portugal up to the 17th C. Where the h do these
"Surely II.V" and such come from? Even from the explanation of the differences between Spain and Portugal's numbers, I mean––where?
It was SPAIN'S Philip III for god/goddess's sake, folks. He died in 1621, an untimely 43 years old, which considering his long reigning father and grandfather Charles ( Carlos) V was a bit of a shock.
You're damn lucky you didn't have to keep track of the Alfonsos ( Afonsos)!!!!
Peace out ~~~~NJ

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[Julian Macassey]

Dontcha just love how google worked so hard to fuck up
usenet so people could answer 24 year old posts.

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Post by Nan Elizabeth Jorgensen
What the heck!?? Taking a class at Berkeley on Spain and Portugal up to the 17th C. Where the h do these
"Surely II.V" and such come from? Even from the explanation of the differences between Spain and Portugal's numbers, I mean––where?
It was SPAIN'S Philip III for god/goddess's sake, folks. He died in 1621, an untimely 43 years old, which considering his long reigning father and grandfather Charles ( Carlos) V was a bit of a shock.
You're damn lucky you didn't have to keep track of the Alfonsos ( Afonsos)!!!!
Peace out ~~~~NJ

So the guy who got roasted was actually Philip II.5.

Surely II.V?

There's nothing special about base ten. YM "II/". HTH.
The '/' means 'half', should be smaller and represents a
broken stick. Broken sticks link to fascists one way and
Nazis another way: useful information in case anyone ever
wants to terminate a thread -- not my intention in this
case.
Simon.
--
... or, here's a thought, why don't we talk about SF for a while?
Simon Slavin -- Computer Contractor Ordinaire. Junk email not welcome here.
Will administer ISO 9000 and year 2000 certification tests for food.

[Don Freeman]

Post by Nan Elizabeth Jorgensen
What the heck!?? Taking a class at Berkeley on Spain and Portugal up to the 17th C. Where the h do these
"Surely II.V" and such come from? Even from the explanation of the differences between Spain and Portugal's numbers, I mean––where?
It was SPAIN'S Philip III for god/goddess's sake, folks. He died in 1621, an untimely 43 years old, which considering his long reigning father and grandfather Charles ( Carlos) V was a bit of a shock.
You're damn lucky you didn't have to keep track of the Alfonsos ( Afonsos)!!!!
Peace out ~~~~NJ

Congrats! You have just been nominated for the Ed Rice Award for the
longest gap between your reply and the post you were replying to. But
beware there is quite a bit of competition generated by your fellow
google groups members.

[Matija Pa]

Not a historian or anything, but how cool is it to respond to a 25-year old post!
In "Gentleman's Book of Etiquete" by Cecil B. Hartley (published 1860), in Chapter II - Politeness, it says:

“There is no country in the world where the absurdities of etiquette are carried to so great a length as in Spain, because there is no nation where the nobility are so proud. The following anecdote, which illustrates this, would seem incredible were it not a historical fact:

'Philip the Third, king of Spain, was sick, and being able to sit up, was carefully placed in an arm chair which stood opposite to a large fire, when the wood was piled up to an enormous height. The heat soon became intolerable, and the courtiers retired from around the king; but, as the Duke D’Ussede, the fire stirrer for the king, was not present, and as no one else had the right to touch the fire, those present dared not attempt to diminish the heat. The grand chamberlain was also absent, and he alone was authorized to touch the king’s footstool. The poor king, too ill to rise, in vain implored those around him to move his chair, no one dared touch it, and when the grand chamberlain arrived, the king had fainted with the heat, and a few days later he died, literally roasted to death.' ”


I don't know how much of this is true but it's silly that even in 2021 it seems difficult to find the cause of a king's death. For anyone interested, the whole book is here: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/39293/39293-h/39293-h.htm